The brilliant Whitney Webb joins me to talk to the latest installment in the Jeffrey Epstein saga: Ghislaine Maxwell's arrest yesterday in New Hampshire. Whitney explains why she thinks Maxwell will get off easy.

Robbie Martin speaks to investigative journalist and writer Whitney Webb about her incredible in-depth new series about a group of sketchy individuals who weave a thread of anthrax, bio-terror fear mongering and 'pandemic preparedness' through the Bush Sr, Clinton, George W Bush administration and now the Trump administration.