In this episode, Whitney is joined by independent journalist, podcaster and documentary filmmaker Robbie Martin to discuss the suspicious pasts and 9/11-Anthrax ties of Rudy Giuliani and his protege Bernard Kerik and how the “Giuliani Gang” has returned to publicly promote pro-Trump and often Qanon-related narratives that claim to challenge the very “deep state” they have long served.

Get early access to podcasts by becoming an Unlimited Hangout member.
Find previous episodes on all podcast platforms.
Order Whitney’s book One Nation Under Blackmail.
Sign up for the weekly newsletter to receive updates on the book, new articles, podcasts, and interviews.